0a 00:00:00.00 00:00:00.08 svarte panter engelsk version 1 00:02:22.19 00:02:27.01 REBELS WITH A CAUSE 2 00:06:04.00 00:06:07.00 Did you mail the press release? 3 00:06:07.05 00:06:09.20 Because there is nothing about the raid in the papers. 4 00:06:10.00 00:06:13.00 Not so good. 5 00:06:13.13 00:06:16.00 Yeah, we got a couple of animals... 6 00:06:16.05 00:06:17.15 We're off, Roger. 7 00:06:17.20 00:06:20.07 I'll fax a new press release when we get there. 8 00:06:20.12 00:06:22.15 Be careful, and watch out! 9 00:08:56.03 00:08:58.08 Are you never satisfied? 10 00:08:58.20 00:09:02.05 Fuck it...what happened now? 11 00:09:15.18 00:09:18.00 Yeah! This is great! 12 00:09:21.03 00:09:25.20 The fuse went. We're running too many machines at the same time. 13 00:09:26.11 00:09:29.11 I forgot to save this. 14 00:09:29.16 00:09:32.02 Very funny! I have to start all over again. 15 00:09:32.24 00:09:39.19 In the name of the Father and the Son and Jesus...Amen! 16 00:09:43.00 00:09:44.24 Karma is a nice name. 17 00:09:52.19 00:09:55.06 Maybe there's some news about us. 18 00:09:55.22 00:09:57.19 It's not impossible. 19 00:09:57.24 00:10:00.17 The whole thing has been hushed up. It was a failure, that's all. 20 00:10:00.22 00:10:04.06 A failure? We liberated some animals. 21 00:10:04.11 00:10:07.19 Yeah, out of 200 million lab animals in the world, we liberated nine, - 22 00:10:07.24 00:10:10.09 - and nobody knows about it. Not bad! 23 00:10:10.14 00:10:11.24 We've found a great name for the dog! 24 00:10:12.04 00:10:15.03 Did you expect to save them all in one go? 25 00:10:15.08 00:10:20.06 No, but the point was to get some attention from the general public. 26 00:10:20.19 00:10:22.20 What have we achieved now? 27 00:10:23.00 00:10:24.24 You tell me? 28 00:10:26.15 00:10:29.03 We've liberated some animals, and that's good, - 29 00:10:29.08 00:10:32.10 - but nobody knows. It is as if nothing ever happened. 30 00:10:32.15 00:10:34.00 Not for her. 31 00:10:34.23 00:10:38.04 No, fine...but are we satisfied with this? 32 00:10:38.09 00:10:42.04 We have to free more animals. That's what we have planned all along. 33 00:10:42.09 00:10:44.14 Yes, but that's not enough. People have to notice! 34 00:10:44.19 00:10:50.10 - What is it you want then? - Me? What do we want? 35 00:11:35.16 00:11:37.14 Come on! 36 00:14:15.04 00:14:17.07 No, thanks... 37 00:15:08.12 00:15:11.08 This is one of the biggest labs in Norway. 38 00:15:11.13 00:15:14.07 They have pigs, cats, dogs, cows... 39 00:15:14.12 00:15:16.05 Cows? 40 00:15:17.00 00:15:19.03 It's like some work of art to get in here. 41 00:15:19.08 00:15:21.03 Isn't this a bit risky? 42 00:15:21.08 00:15:23.18 No worse than your average bank robbery... 43 00:15:23.23 00:15:27.05 - Who's gonna watch the animals? - I have to stay and look after Karma. 44 00:15:27.10 00:15:28.18 Listen to this: 45 00:15:28.23 00:15:31.22 "These young people are hurting the whole animal welfare movement. 46 00:15:32.02 00:15:35.10 We do not condone this, and hope the extremists will come to their senses"- 47 00:15:35.15 00:15:38.06 - says the chairman of The Animal Friends, Tom Christiansen. 48 00:15:38.11 00:15:41.24 - Bloody poodle protecter. - He's always been a coward. 49 00:15:42.04 00:15:45.07 "He asks the activists to turn themselves in - 50 00:15:45.12 00:15:47.06 - while they still have the chance." 51 00:15:47.11 00:15:49.23 Oh dear, what are we going to do? 52 00:15:50.03 00:15:51.20 OK, let's gather here. 53 00:16:32.05 00:16:33.22 We're through. 54 00:16:49.01 00:16:51.01 Damn! 55 00:16:52.10 00:16:54.06 Wait a second, Marius. 56 00:16:54.11 00:16:56.16 The place is empty. 57 00:17:00.16 00:17:02.10 What's happening? 58 00:17:02.15 00:17:04.15 I'm not sure. 59 00:17:25.17 00:17:28.16 Marius, a guard just passed through. 60 00:19:09.10 00:19:11.22 This is a tragedy, especially for the animals. 61 00:19:12.02 00:19:14.15 They have been bred specifically for our purposes, - 62 00:19:14.20 00:19:17.21 - and will have problems surviving in less protected surroundings. 63 00:19:18.01 00:19:22.18 Can you understand the activists concern for the animals? 64 00:19:24.00 00:19:31.10 These so-called animal friends know very little about animals. 65 00:19:32.02 00:19:37.15 It is us, the vets, who are the professional animal protectors. 66 00:19:37.20 00:19:43.07 Animal testing is obviously a touchy area within research, - 67 00:19:43.12 00:19:47.08 - and we often ask ourselves about the ethics of this. 68 00:19:47.13 00:19:51.00 But we have a good relationship with the animal welfare organizations. 69 00:19:51.05 00:19:53.18 They keep us on our toes. 70 00:19:53.23 00:19:57.15 But what we have witnessed here, leads us nowhere. 71 00:19:57.20 00:20:00.06 It is plain vandalism, and most of all: 72 00:20:00.11 00:20:02.07 Cruelty to the animals. 73 00:20:02.12 00:20:05.11 Oh, seriously, you bastard! 74 00:20:07.00 00:20:08.23 We have no leads so far, - 75 00:20:09.03 00:20:11.12 - and have to base the investigation on technical evidence. 76 00:20:11.17 00:20:15.06 We would like to ask the public to call us, - 77 00:20:15.11 00:20:20.05 - should they see anything suspicious in their neighbourhood. 78 00:20:29.13 00:20:31.00 There's a car coming! 79 00:20:31.05 00:20:34.19 - What kind of car? - I don't know. A big one. 80 00:20:49.17 00:20:50.20 Hi... 81 00:20:51.00 00:20:54.03 -What can we do for you? -You are The Panthers, aren't you? 82 00:20:54.08 00:20:56.17 - Who the fuck are you?! - Relax, Lise... 83 00:20:56.22 00:21:00.12 My name is Thomas. Roger asked me to say hello. 84 00:21:00.17 00:21:03.02 So he's been talking... 85 00:21:04.24 00:21:07.16 You do know Roger then? I spoke to him, - 86 00:21:07.21 00:21:11.02 - and I should have phoned you, but you wouldn't have let me come then. 87 00:21:11.07 00:21:12.08 Good guess... 88 00:21:12.13 00:21:15.14 But I am making a documentary about youngsters, - 89 00:21:15.19 00:21:19.07 - and what you are doing, is just what I am looking for. 90 00:21:19.12 00:21:24.02 So I brought my camera, and I was wondering... 91 00:21:25.13 00:21:27.23 You will do it, won't you? 92 00:21:30.10 00:21:33.16 Why do you protect animals in a world full of suffering people? 93 00:21:33.21 00:21:37.24 We don't "protect" animals. We free them from torture and slavery. 94 00:21:38.04 00:21:44.18 I am against all violence, also to animals. 95 00:21:44.23 00:21:46.12 Everything is connected. 96 00:21:46.17 00:21:53.08 Why do we make animals suffer like we would never let people do? 97 00:21:54.02 00:21:56.22 I prefer animals to people... 98 00:21:59.21 00:22:01.14 I believe in reincarnation. 99 00:22:01.19 00:22:04.10 I think all humans will be reborn as animals. 100 00:22:04.15 00:22:06.19 Quite a shock! 101 00:22:06.24 00:22:10.12 Because we've come so far that we're trying to genetically engineer - 102 00:22:10.17 00:22:12.22 - calves to be born without legs. 103 00:22:13.02 00:22:16.00 Because the legs are not needed. 104 00:22:16.05 00:22:20.02 All we want is lovely red meat. Because it's a product. 105 00:22:20.19 00:22:25.12 Why fight racism in a world full of suffering white people? 106 00:22:25.17 00:22:28.23 People say we "only" care about animals. That's crap. 107 00:22:29.03 00:22:30.21 We care about everything that is wrong. 108 00:22:31.01 00:22:37.07 All sorts of oppression, to races, women, kids and animals. 109 00:22:37.12 00:22:41.16 My next project is to fuck up the childrens' welfare office. 110 00:22:41.21 00:22:44.09 They are worse than the fucking cops! 111 00:22:44.14 00:22:47.09 That's all I have to say. You can switch it off now. 112 00:22:47.14 00:22:48.20 OK, thanks! 113 00:22:49.00 00:22:51.05 That was great! 114 00:22:52.09 00:22:54.16 Hey, wait. I need one total of you all. 115 00:22:54.21 00:22:57.01 Total...? 116 00:22:57.06 00:22:59.01 Look straight into the camera. 117 00:22:59.24 00:23:01.14 Action! 118 00:23:56.16 00:23:59.21 Shit! The film ran out. 119 00:24:00.24 00:24:03.10 We have to shoot it again. 120 00:24:04.20 00:24:06.04 Come on!. 121 00:24:06.09 00:24:08.04 Breakfast! 122 00:24:45.19 00:24:47.23 We were on that tour trying to spread information. 123 00:24:48.03 00:24:51.03 Suddenly we're in the middle of one of the worst furfarm districts. 124 00:24:51.08 00:24:54.04 We came to this old couple with a fox farm. 125 00:24:56.10 00:24:58.10 An old couple with a fox farm. 126 00:24:58.15 00:25:03.02 We were many and quite aggressive, but they defended themselves well. 127 00:25:03.07 00:25:05.22 They believed every word they said. 128 00:25:06.02 00:25:09.14 They reminded me of the Ceaucescus, just before their execution. 129 00:25:11.18 00:25:13.19 I said they reminded me of the Ceaucescus before the execution. 130 00:25:13.24 00:25:16.02 The same fear mixed with a blind belief, - 131 00:25:16.07 00:25:19.00 - making them argue their case so fervently. 132 00:25:19.05 00:25:23.08 I remember thinking that we could crush them there and then, - 133 00:25:23.13 00:25:26.07 - but we retreated before we became a lynch mob. 134 00:25:26.12 00:25:32.17 But when we discussed this later, everyone felt sorry for the couple. 135 00:25:33.14 00:25:37.01 But we represent the animals, and they were cruel to them, - 136 00:25:37.06 00:25:40.24 - so we should not feel sorry for them. 137 00:25:41.12 00:25:45.01 I felt sorry for those people too. They were really scared. 138 00:25:45.13 00:25:48.13 Suddenly they were supposed to answer for your sins. 139 00:25:48.18 00:25:50.23 Just like the Ceaucescus. 140 00:25:51.03 00:25:54.18 I don't think anyone who inflicts pain on others has a clean conscience. 141 00:25:54.23 00:25:58.05 Deep down they are aware of their cruelties. 142 00:26:58.03 00:27:00.12 Do you think that the cause justifies the means? 143 00:27:00.17 00:27:02.12 No, the cause is the means. 144 00:27:02.17 00:27:05.06 We want to free the animals and bankrupt the torturers. 145 00:27:05.11 00:27:08.00 That's the cause and the means. 146 00:27:08.05 00:27:14.08 I thought we could use our freedom of speech. 147 00:27:14.13 00:27:19.03 But we are ridiculed and ignored time after time. 148 00:27:19.08 00:27:21.19 Are you sure the animals are better off out here? 149 00:27:21.24 00:27:27.01 Yes, look at the pigs enjoying themselves in the grass all day. 150 00:27:27.06 00:27:29.09 They're having a great time. 151 00:27:30.18 00:27:33.05 Animals are worth less than machines. 152 00:27:33.10 00:27:36.12 If I kill a cat, no one cares. 153 00:27:36.17 00:27:40.06 But if I trash a car, it's straight into a padded cell. 154 00:27:43.06 00:27:48.12 It's not the animals' fault that humans get fatal diseases. 155 00:27:48.17 00:27:52.06 Why should they suffer for our stupidity? 156 00:27:54.11 00:27:57.08 But do you have to break the law to get heard? 157 00:27:57.13 00:28:00.03 Which law? We're not breaking the law. 158 00:28:00.08 00:28:01.21 We're following the law of nature. 159 00:28:02.01 00:28:03.04 Of course. 160 00:28:03.09 00:28:06.04 Animals are not made to walk on concrete floors. 161 00:28:06.09 00:28:08.12 They have a much better time here. 162 00:28:08.17 00:28:11.05 And nobody's cutting them up either. 163 00:28:11.19 00:28:18.00 What if animal testing can save sick children? 164 00:28:18.05 00:28:22.00 You can't compare it like that. 165 00:28:22.05 00:28:23.24 It's not a case of one or the other. 166 00:28:24.04 00:28:28.07 What if the money to save one Norwegian child with heart failure - 167 00:28:28.12 00:28:31.09 - could save 500 African children? 168 00:28:31.14 00:28:35.02 Who do we choose? You can't do it like that. 169 00:28:35.07 00:28:37.02 We are not militant. 170 00:28:37.07 00:28:40.08 We don't take lives, we save lives. 171 00:28:40.13 00:28:43.20 Would you go as far as hurting people who exploit animals? 172 00:28:44.00 00:28:46.19 No, we don't want to hurt anybody. 173 00:28:47.16 00:28:50.20 We could string them up and shake them a bit. 174 00:28:51.00 00:28:54.23 That won't hurt them. Not according to animal research. 175 00:28:55.24 00:28:59.09 No, that's rule number one. 176 00:28:59.14 00:29:02.20 No one gets hurt. Neither animals nor people. 177 00:29:17.05 00:29:19.20 We have to get hold of a vet. 178 00:29:27.01 00:29:29.21 Thanks, you've been great. 179 00:30:51.23 00:30:54.17 Why the hell did you tell people where we are? 180 00:30:57.15 00:30:59.10 That guy? 181 00:30:59.15 00:31:03.00 I thought you knew him. He said you went to school together. 182 00:31:03.05 00:31:07.16 If you believe everything, we'll soon be in the slammer. 183 00:31:09.03 00:31:10.21 Sorry... 184 00:31:11.15 00:31:13.22 OK, it's done. 185 00:31:14.15 00:31:18.22 But we have a problem. We need a vet fast. 186 00:31:19.02 00:31:21.15 The one you know, do you think...? 187 00:31:21.20 00:31:23.21 I doubt it. 188 00:31:24.24 00:31:26.16 What's going on? 189 00:31:26.21 00:31:28.12 - Hi, Marius. - Kristin! 190 00:31:28.17 00:31:30.17 Long time no see! 191 00:31:31.08 00:31:34.23 - What are you doing here? - Here? Where else should I be? 192 00:31:36.00 00:31:38.06 Does everyone in this town know about this? 193 00:31:38.11 00:31:39.14 Cut it out, Marius. 194 00:31:39.19 00:31:43.05 You have dreamt about this since we were together long ago. 195 00:31:43.10 00:31:46.15 People who know you can easily work that one out. 196 00:31:46.20 00:31:49.00 Isn't this what you dreamt about? 197 00:31:49.05 00:31:51.09 Now you get to realise your ideas. 198 00:31:51.14 00:31:53.15 They are not just my ideas. 199 00:31:53.20 00:31:56.15 Maybe it's time for that interview we discussed? 200 00:31:56.20 00:31:59.18 Now, yeah...you should have done it a year ago when we needed it. 201 00:31:59.23 00:32:02.20 So you don't need it now? Grow up, Marius. 202 00:32:03.00 00:32:04.23 You still haven't learnt how the press works. 203 00:32:05.03 00:32:08.06 You just follow the latest trend, in stead of creating it yourself. 204 00:32:08.11 00:32:13.12 If we run a big spread on you now, we'll definately make some waves. 205 00:32:19.08 00:32:21.21 I need a vet... 206 00:32:22.12 00:32:27.03 - Do you know someone? - Maybe... 207 00:32:44.01 00:32:45.14 I don't know. 208 00:32:45.19 00:32:49.06 I have mixed feelings about what you're doing. 209 00:32:50.14 00:32:54.18 You can't just move these lab animals to a farm. 210 00:32:57.09 00:33:00.24 I really hope you know what you're doing. 211 00:33:04.05 00:33:06.05 Well, how far is it? 212 00:33:06.10 00:33:09.18 - About 10-11 hours. - What?! 213 00:33:10.22 00:33:14.02 Kristin said "a couple of hours drive". 214 00:33:14.07 00:33:16.20 Well, that is a couple of hours drive. 215 00:33:40.10 00:33:42.20 I don't understand what's wrong with that dog. 216 00:33:43.00 00:33:46.05 All these animals have been through some very rough treatment. 217 00:33:47.23 00:33:50.24 Like those operations on the pigs. 218 00:33:51.04 00:33:54.22 The cats will probably make it. 219 00:33:55.02 00:33:58.02 - What about the rats? - They have been fed something. 220 00:33:58.07 00:34:02.12 -I am afraid they will die. -But the rabbits are all right? 221 00:34:02.17 00:34:04.04 The rabbits... 222 00:34:04.09 00:34:06.15 The rabbits are all right. 223 00:34:06.20 00:34:11.00 And these hens are obviously having the time of their lives. 224 00:34:11.05 00:34:16.07 Give the dog some more of the stuff I gave you, and hope he recovers. 225 00:34:16.12 00:34:20.07 I have to go, otherwise my wife will think I have a new mistress. 226 00:34:20.12 00:34:23.03 Don't you want some food before you go? 227 00:34:25.08 00:34:27.23 No, I'll have some hot dogs on the way. 228 00:34:28.18 00:34:31.09 You people are crazy. 229 00:34:31.14 00:34:35.14 - Be careful now. - Thanks for your help. 230 00:34:35.19 00:34:38.03 And forget you ever saw me! 231 00:34:44.14 00:34:46.24 I had no idea they would write it like this. 232 00:34:47.04 00:34:51.13 -They? Wasn't it your old girlfriend? -Yes, but we didn't agree on this. 233 00:34:51.18 00:34:55.24 So what? It's just an interview. Front page and everything. 234 00:34:56.04 00:34:57.08 We're supposed to be in this together. 235 00:34:57.13 00:35:00.22 Well, it's done now. We know what the press is like. 236 00:35:01.17 00:35:04.12 - Where did you sleep in town? - At the office. 237 00:35:04.17 00:35:07.01 Really? There was only the answering machine there all night. 238 00:35:07.06 00:35:10.18 - Didn't I switch it off? - That's pretty thin... 239 00:35:19.09 00:35:24.09 "He talks with an intense, almost seductive body language. 240 00:35:24.14 00:35:28.11 His eyes are determined, but also warm and searching. 241 00:35:29.23 00:35:35.23 With his unshakeable idealism, mixed with self assurance and charm, - 242 00:35:36.03 00:35:40.13 - and very good looks, "Petter" will become a role model - 243 00:35:40.18 00:35:43.22 - for thousands of soft-hearted youngsters, - 244 00:35:44.02 00:35:46.15 - who identify themselves with suffering animals." 245 00:35:46.20 00:35:47.22 Can't we drop this now? 246 00:35:48.02 00:35:53.23 Yes, let's forget it all. What is happening here? 247 00:35:54.03 00:35:56.19 This is supposed to be about the animals - not Robin Hood. 248 00:35:56.24 00:35:59.18 Why is there a picture of you on the front page? 249 00:35:59.23 00:36:02.03 It's not me. It's a figure. 250 00:36:02.08 00:36:04.12 What did you want on the front page? A rabbit? 251 00:36:04.17 00:36:08.24 Yes! A rabbit! With its eyes burnt out. 252 00:36:09.19 00:36:12.06 Karma for instance. 253 00:36:12.11 00:36:14.03 Before she dies... 254 00:37:34.03 00:37:36.14 Where did you sleep? 255 00:37:37.09 00:37:39.17 I slept on Kristin's couch. 256 00:37:39.22 00:37:43.17 - Why didn't you tell me? - Because the others were there. 257 00:37:46.13 00:37:48.16 Did she try anything? 258 00:37:50.00 00:37:52.13 Maybe she thought she would get the interview easier if... 259 00:37:52.18 00:37:56.00 - If what? - Nothing happened, Bettina. 260 00:38:46.12 00:38:49.08 - Hi... - Hi... 261 00:38:51.16 00:38:53.02 Oh, Christ. 262 00:38:53.07 00:38:56.17 It doesn't matter. Maybe she needed it. 263 00:38:56.22 00:38:58.21 She's always got Karma... 264 00:39:01.04 00:39:04.11 - I would also like a little... - Dog? 265 00:39:05.04 00:39:06.17 What do you mean? 266 00:39:06.22 00:39:09.01 When we're through with all this, I'd like a little one...! 267 00:39:09.06 00:39:10.14 A kid?! 268 00:39:11.04 00:39:14.18 Relax, there's no hurry. 269 00:39:17.15 00:39:19.10 You are still taking the pill? 270 00:39:19.15 00:39:22.21 Yes...most of the time. 271 00:39:32.16 00:39:36.04 - I'm freaking out. - Are you scared? 272 00:39:36.18 00:39:39.02 Not scared. I'm freaked out. 273 00:39:39.07 00:39:44.00 It's 12 miles to the nearest shop. 24 miles to the next human being. 274 00:39:45.07 00:39:49.00 10 hours before you can even smell civilisation. 275 00:39:52.07 00:39:55.00 Don't you miss the town? 276 00:39:55.05 00:39:57.01 Civilisation...? 277 00:39:57.06 00:39:59.20 No, but boys and friends and... 278 00:40:00.00 00:40:02.06 My friends are here. 279 00:40:03.18 00:40:07.01 I can't take any more farm smell and roosters crowing at 7 a.m. 280 00:40:07.06 00:40:09.22 I need pavements under my feet. 281 00:40:12.20 00:40:15.03 Come and taste this, Marius. 282 00:40:16.23 00:40:19.06 Marius...taste it. 283 00:40:20.12 00:40:23.05 - Was it okay? - Yes, great. 284 00:40:27.18 00:40:32.01 - Why do you seem so distant? - I am thinking. 285 00:40:32.16 00:40:36.00 We're about to do something big, something unique. 286 00:40:36.05 00:40:40.08 We've got to make a mark. We can't relax now. 287 00:40:40.13 00:40:43.06 I thought we would get more time together when we moved here. 288 00:40:43.11 00:40:47.13 But you are always busy with other things, it's like you're not even here. 289 00:40:47.18 00:40:50.04 We're together 24 hours a day, Bettina. 290 00:40:50.09 00:40:53.09 And you don't hear a word I'm saying. 291 00:41:03.12 00:41:07.07 I think it's time we discuss what we really want. 292 00:41:07.12 00:41:11.02 Place what we're doing in some "ideological" context. 293 00:41:11.07 00:41:14.06 Ideology, like Karl Marx? 294 00:41:14.11 00:41:18.07 - What do you think, Erik? - Yes, I agree. 295 00:41:20.02 00:41:21.24 That's good. 296 00:41:22.23 00:41:26.09 We have to follow up what we have started. 297 00:41:26.14 00:41:29.16 Otherwise the animals will die. 298 00:41:29.21 00:41:32.18 - Karma is better now, isn't she? - Yes. 299 00:41:32.23 00:41:34.20 We have to think ahead. 300 00:41:35.00 00:41:38.20 At last we're getting the attention we've wanted for years. 301 00:41:39.00 00:41:42.07 People are waiting to see what's next. So what do we do now? 302 00:41:42.12 00:41:44.14 Start The Animals' Party... 303 00:41:48.08 00:41:51.05 Could we have some serious suggestions, please? 304 00:42:09.20 00:42:13.08 - How did you do that? - Check this out. 305 00:42:15.22 00:42:19.07 This watch is connected to this 9 volt battery, - 306 00:42:19.12 00:42:22.14 - and to this mechanism which has two matches attached. 307 00:42:22.19 00:42:25.03 When the battery is activated, the mechanism strikes a match. 308 00:42:25.08 00:42:28.05 The flame spreads to a small amount of higly flammable material, - 309 00:42:28.10 00:42:36.16 - and the whole packet catches fire. 310 00:42:37.04 00:42:40.13 And the winner is! 311 00:42:41.13 00:42:43.22 Fuckin' hell, Erik! 312 00:42:44.02 00:42:45.22 Brilliant! 313 00:42:46.02 00:42:48.15 But what do you want to do with it? 314 00:42:49.15 00:42:52.00 - The fur stores are waiting. - Are you stupid? 315 00:42:52.05 00:42:54.20 This will take place after closing hours. 316 00:42:55.00 00:42:59.01 Most of the fur stores have sprinklers in the ceilings... 317 00:42:59.06 00:43:02.05 - Are we going to burn down stores? - Yes! 318 00:43:02.10 00:43:06.10 But that's dangerous! We agreed never to hurt anyone. 319 00:43:06.15 00:43:07.20 Let's listen to Erik now. 320 00:43:08.00 00:43:11.19 What about shops without sprinklers and where the cleaner is still there? 321 00:43:11.24 00:43:16.05 We'll call the fire brigade in advance. It can't go wrong. I promise! 322 00:43:17.08 00:43:19.23 How do we plant these things without being recognised? 323 00:43:30.19 00:43:35.07 - Can I help you? - I'm looking for a cheap mink coat. 324 00:44:29.04 00:44:31.23 I need something for my mother's birthday. 325 00:44:53.14 00:44:55.20 The anti-terrorist squad have been called in to stop - 326 00:44:56.00 00:44:59.00 - the well organized activist group, The Panthers, - 327 00:44:59.05 00:45:02.24 -which has commited several illegal raids all over the country. 328 00:45:03.04 00:45:05.21 The police are highly concerned over this Saturday's incident, - 329 00:45:06.01 00:45:10.19 - when 15 fur stores in 5 towns caught fire simultaneously. 330 00:45:10.24 00:45:15.03 Thanks to quick response from the fire brigade no one was injured, - 331 00:45:15.08 00:45:19.11 - but the damages incurred amounts to several million kroner. 332 00:45:19.16 00:45:23.22 The police think international organizations - 333 00:45:24.02 00:45:26.19 - might be behind The Panthers. 334 00:45:26.24 00:45:30.12 The notorious English organization Animal Liberation Front - 335 00:45:30.17 00:45:35.20 - has for several years been terrorizing furriers, testing labs - 336 00:45:36.00 00:45:39.12 - slaughter houses and others in the animal product business. 337 00:45:39.17 00:45:42.13 Human lives have also been endan- gered by the Animal Liberation front. 338 00:45:42.18 00:45:50.10 In 1990 a child was nearly killed when a scientist's car exploded. 339 00:45:50.15 00:45:55.11 The police fear that The Panthers will employ same methods in Norway. 340 00:45:55.16 00:45:59.18 The Minister of Justice has been briefed about the case, - 341 00:45:59.23 00:46:04.13 - by chief investigator Harald Bang. Developments are closely watched. 342 00:46:32.19 00:46:34.23 Marius, wake up! 343 00:46:35.03 00:46:37.14 Come and listen to the news! 344 00:46:39.06 00:46:44.04 It's only a matter of time before groups appear in other areas too, - 345 00:46:44.09 00:46:49.01 - says the spokesman for a new fraction of The Panthers, - 346 00:46:49.06 00:46:52.19 - who last night raided a lab in Stavanger. 347 00:46:52.24 00:46:56.03 When asked why they too used the name Panthers, - 348 00:46:56.08 00:47:00.11 - he replied that they have taken up the challenge by "Petter Panther" - 349 00:47:00.16 00:47:03.24 - who in an interview expressed a wish for new groups - 350 00:47:04.04 00:47:05.22 - throughout the country. 351 00:47:07.16 00:47:09.08 Yes! 352 00:47:09.13 00:47:13.00 - That's good, isn't it? - Of course it's good. 353 00:47:16.12 00:47:19.09 The people on the bridges 354 00:47:19.14 00:47:22.15 untouched by excistence 355 00:47:22.20 00:47:26.06 build bridges where the emptiness is endless 356 00:47:26.11 00:47:29.15 Shores with cliffs throw stormy waves 357 00:47:29.20 00:47:34.13 only a few don't have to listen to the ravings of a juggler 358 00:48:08.21 00:48:12.09 Why are you into poodle protection in a world full of suffering Swedes? 359 00:48:12.14 00:48:16.15 We want humans and animals to face each other, - 360 00:48:16.20 00:48:19.18 - and that's why all humans have to start crawling. 361 00:48:19.23 00:48:24.13 What shall we do next? Free some crawfish in the fjord? 362 00:49:09.22 00:49:12.12 - Shall we leave? - No. 363 00:49:40.15 00:49:43.12 Stay where you are. Don't move! 364 00:49:44.12 00:49:47.03 Get those masks off, and put your hands on your heads. 365 00:49:47.08 00:49:48.17 - Get rid of that gun! - Shut up! 366 00:49:48.22 00:49:52.04 - Drop the gun! - Get those masks off! 367 00:49:54.12 00:49:58.00 Look, I'm taking it off. 368 00:49:58.20 00:50:00.03 You too. 369 00:50:02.24 00:50:07.02 Put the gun down now. You'll go to jail for this. 370 00:50:07.07 00:50:08.24 You're the one who'll go to jail, you bastard! 371 00:50:09.04 00:50:11.23 Come on! Let's see how tough you are. 372 00:50:12.03 00:50:14.15 Say hello to the folks at home! 373 00:50:26.09 00:50:27.21 Ambulance! 374 00:50:31.02 00:50:32.11 Hurry up! 375 00:50:34.10 00:50:37.23 We didn't want this to happen. An ambulance is on its way. 376 00:51:00.03 00:51:05.01 The attack is described as very brutal, and the farmer might lose his sight. 377 00:51:05.06 00:51:09.23 The police are increasing their efforts to stop the activists, - 378 00:51:10.03 00:51:14.02 -who in the last weeks have become more extreme in their actions - 379 00:51:14.07 00:51:16.19 - against people who make their living from animal husbandry. 380 00:51:16.24 00:51:21.08 That bloody farmer had a shotgun! Why don't they mention that? 381 00:51:25.14 00:51:28.10 - I'll call Kristin. - Why? 382 00:51:28.15 00:51:32.00 Because we have to tell our side of the story. Can't you see that? 383 00:51:36.04 00:51:38.19 Can't you stop the press? 384 00:51:39.18 00:51:42.20 OK, fine. Goodbye. 385 00:51:44.24 00:51:47.17 She'll be here as soon as she can, but it's too late for tomorrow. 386 00:51:47.22 00:51:49.20 Is she coming here? 387 00:51:50.00 00:51:53.14 Bettina, don't you see we have to do something or we're in big trouble. 388 00:51:53.19 00:51:57.07 The farmer has lost his sight, and they make it seem like we tried to kill him. 389 00:51:57.12 00:51:59.14 Do you want Erik in prison for 10 years? 390 00:51:59.19 00:52:03.21 A newspaper story won't help if they're out to get us. 391 00:52:04.01 00:52:08.05 Yes, it will! Don't you understand the power of the press?! 392 00:52:08.10 00:52:11.05 Wake up! Bloody sheep! 393 00:52:14.08 00:52:16.11 Karma, come here. 394 00:52:19.16 00:52:23.20 Don't worry about it. The guy was a nazi swine. 395 00:52:25.02 00:52:27.09 Why did you have to go up there, anyway? 396 00:52:27.14 00:52:31.10 Shut up! We all agreed on that raid. Don't blame everyone else! 397 00:52:31.15 00:52:32.17 Relax, Marius. 398 00:52:32.22 00:52:36.08 I'm fed up with this goody-goody shit... 399 00:52:36.13 00:52:39.18 You've had your period ever since we got here! 400 00:52:40.05 00:52:42.24 Yes, I mean that! 401 00:53:02.23 00:53:05.00 Can I have a sip? 402 00:53:07.09 00:53:09.11 Take one in the fridge. 403 00:53:10.10 00:53:14.06 I have to get to bed, or I'll pass out on the couch. 404 00:53:14.11 00:53:16.07 It's my turn to feed the animals in the morning. 405 00:53:16.12 00:53:19.07 - Good night. - Good night. 406 00:53:36.22 00:53:38.19 Bettina... 407 00:54:10.05 00:54:12.18 Why are you lying here? 408 00:54:13.17 00:54:16.23 I had the most absurd dream. 409 00:54:18.10 00:54:21.14 There was this rabbit, and I bent down to stroke it. 410 00:54:21.19 00:54:26.04 Then it began talking. It said: "Come here, come here." 411 00:54:26.09 00:54:30.18 I followed it... and we came into a room. 412 00:54:31.19 00:54:36.05 Then it turned around, and it had these horrible teeth. 413 00:54:37.00 00:54:38.20 And there was this big pile of naked babies, - 414 00:54:39.00 00:54:45.16 - and the rabbits were biting and cutting them up. 415 00:54:47.01 00:54:50.18 Then there was a voice from a speaker saying: 416 00:54:50.23 00:54:55.07 "Is this what you wanted? Is this what you wanted?" 417 00:54:58.14 00:55:01.13 You were pretty heavy on Bettina earlier... 418 00:55:01.18 00:55:06.02 She's probably a bit jealous on your ex-girlfriend. 419 00:55:07.05 00:55:11.20 I think she's a bit scared too. Jail and everything. Not seeing you. 420 00:55:12.17 00:55:15.15 Maybe she feels it's gone a bit too far. 421 00:55:16.10 00:55:20.02 -Are you scared of going to jail? -No... 422 00:55:20.07 00:55:25.04 I'm happy as long as I don't have to see my so-called parents again. 423 00:55:27.01 00:55:31.06 It would be worth it too - a couple of months for a good cause. 424 00:55:33.04 00:55:35.20 It could be more than a couple of months. 425 00:55:36.00 00:55:37.15 Well...never mind. 426 00:55:37.20 00:55:39.24 You're allowed a walkman, aren't you? 427 00:55:45.01 00:55:47.21 Aren't you really too young to go to jail? 428 00:55:48.01 00:55:50.01 No idea... 429 00:55:50.06 00:55:53.03 I have always been too young for everything. 430 00:55:54.07 00:55:59.00 First I was too young to understand that my parents were not my parents. 431 00:55:59.14 00:56:02.23 Then I was too young to meet my real parents. 432 00:56:03.03 00:56:06.10 Then I was too young to move away from them all. 433 00:56:06.15 00:56:11.14 I have been lucky. My parents are really good. 434 00:56:15.00 00:56:17.09 But when I turned vegetarian, they thought I'd gone mad. 435 00:56:17.14 00:56:20.16 "But Marius, you were born with fangs. 436 00:56:20.21 00:56:25.18 You've always loved meatloaf, and liverpat‚ is your favourite." 437 00:56:26.24 00:56:29.24 I don't think they would like this set-up either. 438 00:56:30.18 00:56:33.02 Especially not now. 439 00:56:34.05 00:56:35.23 God... 440 00:56:38.00 00:56:40.19 I don't even like animals. 441 00:56:40.24 00:56:44.04 No, I'm scared of them. 442 00:56:44.09 00:56:46.17 Especially certain dogs. 443 00:56:47.11 00:56:50.21 When I was little, my friend was bit by an Alsatian. 444 00:56:51.01 00:56:55.01 He bent down to stroke it, and it went straight for his face. 445 00:56:55.06 00:57:00.05 Blood everywhere. I pissed myself with fright. 446 00:57:03.04 00:57:05.21 I once killed a guinea pig. 447 00:57:06.10 00:57:08.18 Stepped on my brother's... 448 00:57:08.23 00:57:11.16 I didn't mean to. We were fighting. 449 00:57:11.21 00:57:14.06 He had it in his hand, and we were shoving each other. 450 00:57:14.11 00:57:19.06 Suddenly he dropped it... and I was wearing clogs. 451 00:57:21.13 00:57:26.10 The head was crushed - the teeth stood out through the skin. 452 00:57:28.22 00:57:32.24 He cried for weeks. My mum had to buy him a new one. 453 00:58:08.16 00:58:10.10 COPS!! 454 01:01:08.24 01:01:11.13 The so-called animal terrorists, The Panthers, - 455 01:01:11.18 01:01:14.13 - were arrested last night at a secret hideout. 456 01:01:14.18 01:01:17.10 Several hundred animals were found on the rundown farm. 457 01:01:17.15 01:01:20.05 Specialists have got the animals into safety, - 458 01:01:20.10 01:01:26.03 - and say some animals might die due to the activists inexpert care. 459 01:01:32.12 01:01:34.07 Want one? 460 01:01:35.19 01:01:37.14 Well, then... 461 01:01:58.15 01:02:02.07 I won't talk to you before the lawyer arrives. Is that clear? 462 01:02:07.02 01:02:12.24 Marius is good at talking, writing and things like that. 463 01:02:13.04 01:02:18.15 But we all agreed to the decisions, and did different jobs. 464 01:02:18.20 01:02:22.10 My responsibility was the car. 465 01:02:22.15 01:02:27.06 Where did the ideas come from? Who made the plans? Who convinced who? 466 01:02:27.11 01:02:31.07 We all had ideas. Everybody convinced each other. 467 01:02:31.12 01:02:35.02 We have reason to believe that the girls - 468 01:02:35.07 01:02:40.05 - were led by Marius' "special talents". 469 01:02:40.20 01:02:43.05 - Didn't you feel that? - No. 470 01:02:43.24 01:02:49.18 Remember you might get away with a lighter sentence if you co-operate. 471 01:03:34.11 01:03:37.14 - Hi, Harald Bang. - Bettina. 472 01:03:45.17 01:03:48.07 Well, Bettina... 473 01:03:51.11 01:03:56.03 It's my job to interrogate you. I hope you understand. 474 01:03:57.08 01:04:00.15 Would you like a cigarette? 475 01:04:03.08 01:04:06.00 No, I don't suppose you smoke either. 476 01:04:06.05 01:04:09.07 You kids have healthy habits. I'll put mine out too. 477 01:04:17.14 01:04:20.18 Don't worry. It's not as bad as you think. 478 01:04:20.23 01:04:22.21 I don't bite. 479 01:04:24.13 01:04:27.20 I think we can finish this pretty quickly. But one thing puzzles me. 480 01:04:28.00 01:04:30.19 How can someone who looks as peaceful and harmless as you, - 481 01:04:30.24 01:04:33.24 - endanger other peoples' lives? 482 01:04:37.22 01:04:42.11 You look like you couldn't kill a fly. 483 01:04:42.16 01:04:44.12 Am I right? 484 01:04:46.16 01:04:49.01 Why did you do it? 485 01:04:49.06 01:04:51.06 We never meant to hurt anyone. 486 01:04:51.11 01:04:54.09 We just wanted to free suffering animals. 487 01:04:55.00 01:04:57.13 I'll tell you a secret. 488 01:04:57.18 01:05:01.13 In one way I respect what you stand for. 489 01:05:01.18 01:05:05.08 Your idealism and will to sacrifice everything for a cause. 490 01:05:05.13 01:05:12.15 I love animals myself, and I agree that we don't do enough for them. 491 01:05:13.10 01:05:19.04 But when you replaced idealism with fanaticism, - 492 01:05:19.17 01:05:22.11 - you damaged things both for yourselves and the animals. 493 01:05:22.16 01:05:26.09 There are certain rules you can't break without having to pay for it. 494 01:05:26.14 01:05:29.00 And you've done that. 495 01:05:29.05 01:05:32.21 You're way out of line. Do you understand that? 496 01:05:34.00 01:05:36.06 Do you regret it? 497 01:05:41.14 01:05:45.07 I'm sorry for what happened to that farmer, but... 498 01:05:45.22 01:05:49.10 -He threatened them with a shotgun! -How do you know that? 499 01:05:50.09 01:05:52.17 - They would never... - Are you sure about that? 500 01:05:52.22 01:05:54.18 Do you trust Marius? 501 01:05:54.23 01:05:57.23 Don't you think he's never lied to you? 502 01:06:01.02 01:06:03.17 Not about anything serious. 503 01:06:06.01 01:06:09.00 Bettina, I'm sorry I have to dissapoint you. 504 01:06:10.05 01:06:12.11 I know this will hurt you, - 505 01:06:12.16 01:06:16.10 - but I think it is important that you find out about Marius. 506 01:06:16.15 01:06:19.23 I assume you don't know that he had a relationship with Lise. 507 01:06:20.03 01:06:22.16 A sexual relationship. 508 01:06:22.21 01:06:25.02 You're lying! Who told you that? 509 01:06:25.07 01:06:27.08 Lise did. 510 01:06:32.01 01:06:34.02 It's not true. 511 01:06:34.07 01:06:37.22 Lise insisted I didn't tell you, but I think you should know. 512 01:06:38.22 01:06:43.11 How can you lie about this? I want to talk to him. 513 01:06:43.16 01:06:45.15 You can't do that. 514 01:06:47.16 01:06:49.17 Maybe he had... 515 01:06:50.10 01:06:52.08 He could have had something going on with Sonia too. 516 01:06:52.13 01:06:54.19 What do you mean?! 517 01:07:05.12 01:07:08.03 Maybe we should take a break now. 518 01:07:38.06 01:07:43.06 I have told you this a hundred times. He threatened us with a shotgun. 519 01:07:43.11 01:07:45.07 He fired a shot right above our heads. 520 01:07:45.12 01:07:47.13 Who hit him? 521 01:07:48.22 01:07:52.10 I'd like to say it was me... We were in it together. 522 01:07:52.15 01:07:54.20 It could have been me, but the point is... 523 01:07:55.14 01:07:59.23 Listen, young man, the farmer identified you. 524 01:08:00.03 01:08:02.17 We have not found any shotgun, - 525 01:08:02.22 01:08:05.08 - and Erik denies he did it! 526 01:08:09.21 01:08:12.17 You must realise that you don't have much credibility! 527 01:08:12.22 01:08:14.24 And the same to you! 528 01:08:25.06 01:08:28.05 There is no doubt that Marius Holth was the leader. 529 01:08:28.10 01:08:33.01 He had planned this for years, and been trained abroad. 530 01:08:33.06 01:08:37.21 During the investigation he has remained calm and collected, - 531 01:08:38.01 01:08:42.09 - as opposed to the others who are ordinary kids - 532 01:08:43.05 01:08:46.14 - longing for "adventure", - 533 01:08:46.19 01:08:51.03 - and with unrealistic ideas of what's acceptable in a democracy. 534 01:08:51.08 01:08:55.07 Marius Holth regrets nothing. 535 01:08:55.12 01:09:01.11 He is a fanatic and a dangerous agitator. 536 01:09:01.16 01:09:04.13 Are you saying that the others have been brainwashed? 537 01:09:06.06 01:09:10.15 That might be taking it a bit too far, but I see what you mean. 538 01:09:11.20 01:09:14.21 On what do you base the charges of sexual misconduct? 539 01:09:18.22 01:09:21.02 What did you say? 540 01:09:22.16 01:09:25.08 On what do you base the charges of sexual misconduct? 541 01:09:25.13 01:09:28.05 We haven't placed any particular emphasis on this. 542 01:09:29.21 01:09:37.00 The charge of exploiting a minor, includes the suspicion of sex abuse, - 543 01:09:37.22 01:09:40.16 - but that's one of several charges. 544 01:09:40.21 01:09:47.20 It's the press who have made up this nonsense about a "sex-sect". 545 01:09:48.00 01:09:52.16 Can't you see he's in the shit because we pointed him out as the leader. 546 01:09:52.21 01:09:57.06 - Speak for yourself. - I didn't make the headline. 547 01:09:57.11 01:10:01.18 If you regret what you wrote, you can't make up for it by ignoring the facts. 548 01:10:01.23 01:10:06.19 They have gone too far, and it's our duty to follow the case through. 549 01:11:04.01 01:11:06.07 We know this will be heavy. 550 01:11:06.12 01:11:10.11 We have to make a good impression. 551 01:11:10.16 01:11:14.17 I would advice you to dress nicely. 552 01:11:43.23 01:11:48.03 Is the person who hit you present in this court? 553 01:11:49.03 01:11:52.14 - Yes. - Can you point him out? 554 01:11:55.23 01:11:58.17 - Him. - You're lying! 555 01:12:00.16 01:12:03.12 Can you tell us what happened on the night of July 5th? 556 01:12:03.17 01:12:06.04 I woke up in the middle of the night because the animals were unsettled. 557 01:12:06.09 01:12:11.14 I looked out of the window, saw some- thing move and realised it was people. 558 01:12:11.19 01:12:13.09 I remembered The Panthers, - 559 01:12:13.14 01:12:18.16 - and was afraid they had come to fuc...do some mischief. 560 01:12:18.21 01:12:20.24 What did you know about The Panthers prior to that night? 561 01:12:21.04 01:12:24.05 I had read about their raids on fur stores and so on. 562 01:12:24.10 01:12:26.17 - Did they seem dangerous? - Yes. 563 01:12:26.22 01:12:30.21 What did you think when you realised they were on your property? 564 01:12:31.01 01:12:33.21 I wanted to call the police, but my phone was out of order, - 565 01:12:34.01 01:12:35.22 - so I had to sort it out myself. 566 01:12:36.02 01:12:39.04 - Were you scared? - Yes. 567 01:12:39.09 01:12:42.10 - Did you take any precautions? - No. 568 01:12:42.15 01:12:48.00 So despite being scared, you chose to walk into a threatening situation. 569 01:12:48.05 01:12:50.16 - I didn't expect them to attack me. - What did you expect? 570 01:12:50.21 01:12:52.12 That I could frighten them off. 571 01:12:52.17 01:12:55.10 So you didn't consider them to be more dangerous than that. 572 01:12:55.15 01:13:00.05 I didn't think much. I was worried about the animals. 573 01:13:00.10 01:13:02.09 - Did you know how many they were? - Two. 574 01:13:02.14 01:13:05.07 - Were you sure of this? - Yes, at least two. 575 01:13:05.12 01:13:10.16 But despite knowing they outnumbered you, and you felt threatened, - 576 01:13:10.21 01:13:12.20 - you still didn't take anything along to defend yourself with? 577 01:13:13.00 01:13:14.02 No. 578 01:13:14.07 01:13:16.18 What happened when you encountered the activists? 579 01:13:16.23 01:13:22.10 They attacked me, and the leader hit me with something. 580 01:13:22.15 01:13:23.17 According to my clients, - 581 01:13:23.22 01:13:28.08 - you were armed with a shotgun and fired several shots. Is this correct? 582 01:13:28.13 01:13:29.17 No. 583 01:13:29.22 01:13:32.13 - Do you keep any weapons at home? - No. 584 01:13:32.18 01:13:36.17 - Have you ever owned any weapons? - No. 585 01:14:36.15 01:14:43.01 Besides being the brain behind the actions and the main offender,- 586 01:14:43.06 01:14:49.23 - Marius Holth is also responsible for Sonia Osland's mental breakdown. 587 01:14:50.03 01:14:52.17 She couldn't cope with the pressure. 588 01:14:52.22 01:14:56.13 Marius Holth also recruited the minor Lise Beckstrm to the group. 589 01:14:56.18 01:15:01.07 When she ran away from home, Marius offered her to stay in his flat. 590 01:15:01.12 01:15:04.06 We suspect they had a sexual relationship, - 591 01:15:04.11 01:15:07.01 - which would constitute a criminal offence, as Lise is not yet... 592 01:15:07.06 01:15:09.23 Your Honor, I must protest. 593 01:15:10.15 01:15:14.17 Free The Panthers! Free The Panthers! 594 01:15:21.17 01:15:28.13 It's very boring being a policeman and directing all the traffic 595 01:15:28.18 01:15:35.19 When all the kids run in the streets and heed no cars or trams 596 01:15:35.24 01:15:43.20 But when a little girl comes up and asks me for some help 597 01:15:44.00 01:15:52.13 Then it's nice to be a policeman and no one is as happy as I 598 01:15:53.10 01:15:57.07 If I may hold your hand, then you may hold my hand 599 01:15:57.12 01:16:00.16 and we can help each other you and I 600 01:16:00.21 01:16:07.20 Then it's clear that we are friends, and that's what everyone should be 601 01:16:09.05 01:16:15.23 It's very boring being a policeman and patrolling and keep guard 602 01:16:16.03 01:16:23.03 When someone steals a lot of money and we have to take them by force 603 01:16:23.08 01:16:30.18 But if a little boy has lost a penny and asks the police to help him out 604 01:16:31.12 01:16:39.03 Then it's nice to be a policeman and no one is as happy as I 605 01:16:40.09 01:16:43.22 We'll search here and there We'll search everywhere 606 01:16:44.02 01:16:47.02 and we don't stop till everyone has come along 607 01:16:47.07 01:16:54.00 Then it's clear that we are friends and that's what everyone should be 608 01:16:56.11 01:16:58.09 OK, as you like... 609 01:16:58.14 01:17:01.07 I've got one last offer for you. 610 01:17:01.12 01:17:05.24 If we may look through your material, we'll give back what we confiscated. 611 01:17:07.15 01:17:09.08 No. 612 01:17:09.13 01:17:12.17 Can't you see that this isn't doing you any good? 613 01:17:20.10 01:17:23.05 Razzia against young filmmaker. 614 01:17:23.19 01:17:27.18 The police searched the premises of the young director Thomas R†bs†n, - 615 01:17:27.23 01:17:33.21 - and confiscated material said to be important to the "Panther"-trial. 616 01:17:34.01 01:17:36.20 R†ps†n is our guest in the studio this morning. 617 01:17:38.23 01:17:44.03 Thomas R†bs†n, you've filmed these people-haters, The Panthers. 618 01:17:44.08 01:17:47.14 Did you have to crawl around to be accepted by them? 619 01:17:47.19 01:17:50.19 No, I respect them very much. 620 01:17:50.24 01:17:53.01 They dare to do what others only dream about. 621 01:17:53.06 01:17:57.21 So most people dream about attacking innocent farmers and commiting arson? 622 01:17:58.01 01:18:02.13 When freedom of speech exists only in theory, and one is never heard, - 623 01:18:02.18 01:18:05.16 - then it will lead to illegalities. 624 01:18:05.21 01:18:10.10 You talk about democracy, but the Panthers weren't very democratic. 625 01:18:10.15 01:18:12.21 Their leader was pretty ruthless. 626 01:18:13.01 01:18:16.06 He is not the leader. The group worked as a democracy. 627 01:18:16.11 01:18:19.23 Well, that will be decided in court in a few days, - 628 01:18:20.03 01:18:23.03 - so there is not much point in us playing judges. 629 01:18:23.08 01:18:25.10 Let's leave that to the people who are paid to do it. 630 01:18:25.15 01:18:28.10 Our job is to entertain you, and that's what we're gonna do. 631 01:18:28.15 01:18:30.13 This is Radio 1 - FM 106.6. 632 01:18:30.18 01:18:33.23 We'd like to thank director Rossbam, and wish him luck! 633 01:18:34.03 01:18:38.16 There is no doubt that Erik Hansen is guilty of serious offences, - 634 01:18:38.21 01:18:43.12 -but Erik is an adventurer and dreamer. He joined the group for the fun of it. 635 01:18:43.17 01:18:47.11 It is also important to remember that the contraption Erik made, - 636 01:18:47.16 01:18:54.19 - were all to be found in a book about sabotage given to Erik by Marius Holth. 637 01:18:58.08 01:19:03.19 I don't intend to divest the others of blame by focusing on Marius Holth, - 638 01:19:03.24 01:19:08.21 - but he was undoubtedly the brain and leader of the group. 639 01:19:09.01 01:19:13.17 He insisted on new actions when the others wished to slow down. 640 01:19:13.22 01:19:19.02 I think it has been clearly documented that he is the extremist of the five, - 641 01:19:19.07 01:19:25.08 - which resulted in the cold-blooded attack on the farmer Simen kland. 642 01:19:26.14 01:19:28.08 What's your opinion of the Panthers? 643 01:19:28.13 01:19:32.06 It's good someone does something for the animals. 644 01:19:32.11 01:19:34.24 I wouldn't know anything about that. 645 01:19:36.00 01:19:38.14 The Panthers? What are they? 646 01:19:38.19 01:19:41.23 Oh, he's just gorgeous. 647 01:19:42.03 01:19:46.11 I have stopped wearing leather now. 648 01:19:46.16 01:19:51.00 I agree that they work for a good cause, - 649 01:19:51.05 01:19:57.14 - but when they use such extreme methods, I can't agree with them. 650 01:20:00.04 01:20:03.04 I support The Panthers! Come on! 651 01:20:03.09 01:20:05.18 What do you think of The Panthers? 652 01:20:10.00 01:20:13.14 Marius Holth is charged with serious criminal offences. 653 01:20:13.19 01:20:16.19 Supposed leader of organized crime,- 654 01:20:16.24 01:20:20.09 - damage to private and public property, - 655 01:20:20.14 01:20:26.04 - arson, breaking and entering, theft and assault. 656 01:20:27.14 01:20:30.11 He has admitted to several of the charges. 657 01:20:30.16 01:20:32.24 What he has not admitted is: 658 01:20:33.04 01:20:35.12 One: That he is the leader of the group. 659 01:20:35.17 01:20:37.01 Two: That he is an agitator. 660 01:20:37.06 01:20:40.06 And three: That he hit farmer Simen kland. 661 01:20:40.23 01:20:46.19 It seems like the prosecutor has felt a need to find one single scapegoat. 662 01:20:46.24 01:20:51.06 Is this because Marius Holth had al- ready been singled out by the press, - 663 01:20:51.11 01:20:55.05 - or is it because he had the nerve to file charges against the police? 664 01:20:56.05 01:20:58.21 Every conceivable incident is being used against Holth. 665 01:20:59.01 01:21:02.09 The fact that Sonia Osland had a mental breakdown is one example. 666 01:21:02.14 01:21:03.23 According to everyone in the group, - 667 01:21:04.03 01:21:08.22 - this is due to the fact that her dog, Karma, was killed during the arrest. 668 01:21:09.02 01:21:10.21 A dog she loved very much. 669 01:21:11.01 01:21:12.21 A dog which has vanished without a trace. 670 01:21:13.01 01:21:15.17 According to the prosecutor it never existed. 671 01:21:16.06 01:21:19.08 Everyone in the group have explained how the group functioned. 672 01:21:19.13 01:21:21.11 All decisions were taken collectively. 673 01:21:21.16 01:21:23.24 This does not mean by a majority vote, - 674 01:21:24.04 01:21:26.24 - but all five had to agree on any action taken. 675 01:21:27.04 01:21:30.09 We're speaking of- an extended democracy, - 676 01:21:30.14 01:21:32.13 - something which stands in sharp contrast to the claims - 677 01:21:32.18 01:21:36.13 - of a dictatorship with Marius Holth as the leader. 678 01:21:36.18 01:21:39.15 Commiting arson is clearly unacceptable, - 679 01:21:39.20 01:21:44.09 - as you may endanger other peoples' lives. 680 01:21:44.14 01:21:48.22 When vandalising a legal, as defined by the authorities, - 681 01:21:49.02 01:21:51.19 - legal business where furs are sold, - 682 01:21:51.24 01:21:56.22 - the irritation and anger should in stead be directed at the authorities. 683 01:21:57.09 01:22:01.01 I think it takes a lot to break the law in a country like Norway. 684 01:22:01.06 01:22:06.10 It is democratic enough to let you demonstrate against almost anything. 685 01:22:06.15 01:22:10.13 I think those methods are acceptable. 686 01:22:10.18 01:22:12.14 They claim we have freedom of speech, - 687 01:22:12.19 01:22:16.08 - but when the authorities appear to be autistic, you have to act! 688 01:22:16.13 01:22:19.01 Take it again, and I'll try. 689 01:22:19.19 01:22:22.21 OK, is it acceptable to break the law in order to make a political point? 690 01:22:23.01 01:22:24.08 Yes, definately, - 691 01:22:24.13 01:22:28.05 - and I think it's a necessary corrective to our system of government. 692 01:22:28.10 01:22:36.20 Providing that this is a legal business where animals are used in research, - 693 01:22:37.00 01:22:39.21 - in a manner which does not conflict with the law, - 694 01:22:40.01 01:22:43.03 - no one is entitled to take action or disturb the business. 695 01:22:43.08 01:22:46.20 They're not refused freedom of speech, it just doesn't matter what they say. 696 01:22:47.00 01:22:49.15 Getting an opinion across is not easy, - 697 01:22:49.20 01:22:51.21 - but everyone has the same possibilities. 698 01:22:52.01 01:22:53.14 There is nothing wrong with the system. 699 01:22:53.19 01:22:56.09 The irritation should be directed at journalists and editors, - 700 01:22:56.14 01:22:59.24 - who won't publish your opinion. 701 01:23:00.04 01:23:04.05 This is a democracy with the same possibilities for everyone, - 702 01:23:04.10 01:23:07.03 - to put pressure on the authorities, - 703 01:23:07.08 01:23:10.23 - start political parties, be part of the political process. 704 01:23:11.03 01:23:15.11 The majority decides, and that's how it has to be, - 705 01:23:15.16 01:23:17.03 - and we just have to accept that. 706 01:23:20.11 01:23:24.18 They laugh at our high ideals 707 01:23:24.23 01:23:30.17 Steal, murder, burn, whore, rape, plunder and betray 708 01:23:30.22 01:23:35.12 Can you even understand where their brutality come from? 709 01:23:36.07 01:23:39.22 Marius Holth, born 29.04.65, - 710 01:23:40.02 01:23:45.06 - is hereby sentenced to prison for 4 years and 8 months. 711 01:23:45.11 01:23:50.04 173 days spent in custody will be subtracted from this. 712 01:23:50.17 01:23:55.04 The defendant should note that this is also a declaration of the sentence, - 713 01:23:55.09 01:24:00.19 - and that you may appeal the sentence. 714 01:24:00.24 01:24:04.00 The appeal must be lodged within two weeks, - 715 01:24:04.05 01:24:10.17 - and you may state whether you wish to make use of the waiting period, - 716 01:24:10.22 01:24:13.20 - or lodge an appeal now. 717 01:24:42.13 01:24:44.16 No, I ran away the minute they let me out. 718 01:24:44.21 01:24:47.14 Childrens's institutions aren't much better than jail. 719 01:24:47.19 01:24:50.02 It's typical that they came down hard on Marius. 720 01:24:50.07 01:24:54.10 They had to find a Hitler. Someone they could all love to hate. 721 01:24:55.09 01:24:58.02 The whole deal reminds me of something my friend says: 722 01:24:58.07 01:25:00.12 "The only difference between a dictatorship and a democracy, - 723 01:25:00.17 01:25:04.16 - is that in a dictatorship you may think as long as you don't speak, - 724 01:25:04.21 01:25:08.19 - and in a democracy you may speak as long as you don't think." 725 01:25:09.16 01:25:12.24 What do you feel you have achieved? 726 01:25:23.07 01:25:25.19 Would you do it all again? 727 01:25:32.16 01:25:40.02 You're allowed to be happy You may say whatever you want 728 01:25:40.15 01:25:48.11 You may speak freely of wrong and right 729 01:25:49.00 01:25:52.15 Go around and tell everyone 730 01:25:52.20 01:25:57.00 You're allowed to be happy 731 01:26:04.18 01:26:08.18 Yes, I can in some instances accept that someone breaks the law, - 732 01:26:08.23 01:26:10.11 - to make a political point. 733 01:26:10.16 01:26:14.08 But it would depend on the seriousness of the offence, - 734 01:26:14.13 01:26:18.07 - and also on the political aims. 735 01:26:18.12 01:26:20.17 I can imagine if you were fighting for a cause, - 736 01:26:20.22 01:26:22.10 - and there was no other way. 737 01:26:22.15 01:26:26.15 If the media were closed to you, and you burn for a good cause, - 738 01:26:26.20 01:26:30.13 -and can't get your message through without drastic measures, - 739 01:26:30.18 01:26:37.20 - then I could understand that you would try one last scream for help. 740 01:26:38.00 01:26:45.01 You are allowed to be happy You may say whatever you want 741 01:26:46.01 01:26:52.23 You may speak freely of wrong and right 742 01:26:54.09 01:27:01.16 Go around and tell everyone You are allowed to be happy 743 01:27:03.11 01:27:08.07 I believe a democracy is strengthened by openness and tolerance - 744 01:27:08.12 01:27:10.22 - towards people who really believe in something, and are willing to fight. 745 01:27:11.02 01:27:15.09 Quite often these people are later seen as pioneers, - 746 01:27:15.14 01:27:17.04 - even though their comtemporaries wouldn't accept them. 747 01:27:17.09 01:27:20.12 We've seen a few examples from environmental organisations, - 748 01:27:20.17 01:27:22.09 - and the likes which are illegal, - 749 01:27:22.14 01:27:26.12 - and this has led to them being turned away, carried away and fined. 750 01:27:26.17 01:27:29.23 And that's the way it has to be in an orderly democratic society. 751 01:27:30.03 01:27:34.13 I can't envision, in peacetime and in our open democracy, - 752 01:27:34.18 01:27:37.09 - any situation where we should be lenient. 753 01:27:37.14 01:27:41.10 It will never be legal, and it's my duty as Chief of Police, - 754 01:27:41.15 01:27:44.02 - to make sure that what happens is legal. 755 01:27:44.07 01:27:50.17 You're allowed to be happy You may say whatever you want 756 01:27:51.14 01:27:58.20 You may speak freely of wrong and right 757 01:27:59.18 01:28:03.12 Go around and tell everyone 758 01:28:03.17 01:28:07.18 You're allowed to be happy 759 01:28:10.23 01:28:14.12 In the formal sense we have a system of justice, - 760 01:28:14.17 01:28:19.06 - as there are proper trials and that kind of thing, - 761 01:28:19.11 01:28:27.03 - but in reality there are probably little understanding for minorities, - 762 01:28:27.08 01:28:31.06 - and the authorities don't really understand them, - 763 01:28:31.11 01:28:33.04 - and that probably colours the proceedings. 764 01:28:33.09 01:28:40.18 It's wonderful to be free Finally, yes, finally 765 01:28:46.14 01:28:49.14 The freedom of expression in Norway is very straight forward really. 766 01:28:49.19 01:28:51.19 No one has any power to say anything anyway. 767 01:28:51.24 01:28:55.08 OK, you can say: "Fuck off", but it won't do any good, - 768 01:28:55.13 01:28:58.00 - because you haven't got any weight behind it. 769 01:28:58.05 01:29:01.02 - So how do you get some weight? - On TV. 770 01:29:01.07 01:29:04.20 - So you've got to be on TV? - Yes. On TV. 771 01:29:06.12 01:29:07.20 Well, I guess that's all. 772 01:29:08.00 01:29:09.23 - Was that it? - Yes, that's it.